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Published - Wednesday, May 16, 2007

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Thomann markets Camp NCN as sex resort

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Jackson County is now home to an all-inclusive, couples-only private sex resort/campground. Marv Thomann, owner and manager of Camp NCN, announced his new business endeavor last week by way of a nationwide press release in hopes of attracting couples from around the nation and globe to his Highway 12 campground. Events planned for this summer include Spank Fetish and Bondage Festival, Wisconsin Swinger’s Festival and Midwest Amateur Porn Search.

“Couples can freely fulfill their sexual curiosities openly and in the privacy of others who share their same intimate lifestyle …” Thomann said.

Thomann has offered nude and swinger events in the past including 2002 and 2003 when 700 to 900 people converged on his campground for a weekend of X-rated activity. And, he said he wasn’t the only business to benefit from the visitors. Thomann said other business owners in town noticed an upswing of sales.

“I haven’t had one complaint about the nude groups, but a heck of a lot of complaints about the music,” Thomann said.

Terry Schmidt, zoning administrator for Jackson County, said the county cannot enforce any zoning ordinances because Thomann’s campground is located in the town of Alma, an unzoned township.

County board supervisor John Bahnub, whose constituents live near the campground, said he doesn’t think neighbors will complain as long as Thomann keeps activities behind closed doors and out of the public eye.

County Clerk Kyle Deno declined to comment on the nature of the campground. Sheriff Duane Waldera said he’s looking at the issue closely and plans to meet with county officials to discuss it more.

Why an adult theme?

The adult playground seems like an odd occupation for a person who was born in a Green County farm house to a religious family. Thomann said if his parents were alive today, they would not approve of his lifestyle.

He doesn’t see a moral issue with his new business venture, because guests are “consenting adults doing what they want to do.”

Before moving to Black River Falls, Thomann worked for 29 years as a truck driver, often stopping in Jackson County, which is why he decided to move here. Thomann said he was intrigued by nudist camps and eventually became part of the swinger community 18 years ago. He worked for 10 years at a swinger club in Madison.

If the adult world picks up, as Thomann expects it to, he sees a lot of money being made, especially since he sent a nationwide press release to big name media outlets.

“It’s basically a campground where you can be yourself and do what you want to do,” Thomann said. “I want people to be able to relax.” Thomann purchased Camp NCN, which stands for No Clothing Necessary, on April 2, 2002. He originally had plans to hold music concerts at the site, and did so for a few years. But because of complaints about the loudness of his music and the hassles of obtaining a county-required large assembly permit, Thomann has decided to invest in the adult entertainment industry.

What is the large assembly permit?

“I’m the only business in Jackson County that has to abide by the large assembly permit,” Thomann said.

That’s because Thomann’s campground is the only place in the county where events surpass 18 consecutive hours in length and play host to more than 1,500 people, Deno said. Earlier this year, Deno said she was contacted by a concert promoter whose musical client was scheduled to perform at Thomann’s campground. Deno said she gave the man information on the large assembly permit and never heard back from him.

The large assembly permit costs $150 plus $5,000 in bond money that is held by the clerk until an event has concluded. Some of the amenities required in the permit include security, enough bathrooms to accommodate a large crowd, potable water and phone service just to name a few.

Once the event is over and no incidents occurred that required county services, the bond money is returned to the event promoter. Deno said bond money wouldn’t be returned if, for example, an incident occurred that required law enforcement to be on scene for some time.

The Jackson County Fair and small town festivals in the county are exempt because while those events last longer than 18 hours, there is a break when people leave the grounds, Deno said.

Thomann claims that in five years time, that permit cost him $300,000 in lost revenue. Most recently a music group out of Detroit backed out of its planned performance at NCN because Thomann said they couldn’t deal with the bureaucracy of the county board.

When the band cancelled, Thomann estimated that $100,000 in potential profits was lost. And he said he wasn’t the only person to lose money. Jackson County lost the spending power of 5,000 tourists, Thomann said.

While he hated to do away with offering concerts, he also was tired of hearing from people in the community that his music was too loud.

Earlier this year, the Jackson County Board of Supervisors discussed at length the county’s noise ordinance after Bahnub said his constituents were tired of being subjected to Thomann’s concerts that played all hours of the night.

According to the ordinance, a party is in violation if their music or noise exceeds 80 decibels. The board studied and discussed the ordinance for a few months and then decided to leave it in the hands of the sheriff’s department.

Waldera told supervisors that his staff needed to be trained on how to use the decibel readers and would start to enforce the ordinance once training was completed. “I really wanted the music thing to go, but I want to please Jackson County,” he said.
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Fun in Minnesota wrote on Mar 27, 2008 11:48 PM:

" I like campgrounds like that... I found one at AttractionUSA.com and will attend all the time and it's in Minnesota. "

Mary wrote on Dec 15, 2007 4:41 PM:

" Please don't confuse Naturists/Nudists with swingers. Naturist and Nudist clubs are family places, no sex involved. (No disrespect meant toward swingers.) "

Complaints wrote on Nov 30, 2007 10:31 AM:

" Complaints against this campground intuited a lawsuit! The court date is January 30th 2008 at 10:am. "

DC wrote on Jun 9, 2007 11:26 PM:

" I do dont believe that this campground should be turned into an "adult playland" i know the familys that live on the hill above the camp ground where there back yard is the campground and one family had 2 young girls that live in that house letting this campground turn into an "adult playland" is making the staement hey lets do whatever we want whenever i know i wouldnt want my children to walk in the back yard and see things like that happening it wrong i have a kid on the way and i know damn well things like that shouldnt happen if your going to do that do it in the middle of nowhere not right off a highway with young children living at the top of the hill "

WI Family wrote on Jun 7, 2007 5:00 PM:

" I don’t understand people that claim they are for freedom, but try to control and push their will on those that are not hurting them in anyway. Interesting that as many times as we’ve been by that campground we never knew there was anything related to nudism, or swinging there. We only learned it recently watching the news. Some of the things going on there are just to weird to interest us, but we do still claim this is a free country don’t we? Get over it and stop whining. You don’t have to like it, but it’s their right. Stop trampling on the rights of others. You have no right to tell your neighbors, or anyone else how to live. "

Re: Duh wrote on Jun 3, 2007 3:13 PM:

" You are WRONG. This site is not the old Thayers Lazy Acres place. This site is right along Hwy 12/27 between BRF and Merrillan. Do you know how much traffic is on this road!!! Old plastic hung up on ropes won't block out all the sights! If it was out in the boonies I don't think there would be as much as a response. After all, Thayers was converted into a private nudist place years ago and there wasn't as much "to do" about that. "

Resident of BRF wrote on Jun 1, 2007 12:22 PM:

" ChrisPeper: I find your comment offensive and narrow minded. You are doing exactly the same thing as the people who are against the campground. To say that ALL the people in Wisconsin are against freedom is laughable. We do not LOVE prisons and rules. And as for the sexual dysfunction statement, most people are sexually dysfunctional on some level. For the most part, the people here are very community oriented and will do what they can to help others in need. Of course there is going to be those who oppose the NCN campground, but that is why we live in the United States, FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I personally don't care, as long as there is nothing visible from the road as I drive by. "

Duh! wrote on Jun 1, 2007 10:18 AM:

" [quote]If you looked up "Camp NCN" two years ago on the Internet you would have found all kinds of "intresting" photos of what went on t "Camp NCN".[/quote] Dude, if you took the time to actually look on the internet for those pictures, then you got what you wanted. Maybe you should complain about your neighbors having whoopie in their bedroom- after all, it you were to sneak over there you might be able to peek through the curtains and see them doing it! If he keeps it private, then no problem. The site is out in the middle of nowhere (I grew up about 6 miles away when it was still Thayer's). As long as nothing is visible from the road, and they keep the noise down (no explicit lyrics, loud music, etc) then they aren't hurting anything. "

ChrisPeper wrote on May 28, 2007 9:25 PM:

" I am very surprised that there is discussion of this nature about the campground. The people of Wisconsin are mostly prude. There is a high degree of sexual dysfunction in Wisconsin and there is an obsession with rules, regulations, and prisons. I am very surprised that the people of Wisconsin did not attempt to “bust down” the people that attended this camp. The people of Wisconsin love prisons and hate freedom. "

To think wrote on May 28, 2007 6:14 PM:

" Well said. People are scared of the unknown. I'm sure a lot of people would be shocked to learn that people they know and trust are involved in this life style. "

Think wrote on May 25, 2007 11:50 PM:

" These sinful, low caliber people you speak of could be your doctor, lawyer, friend or even a teacher. They are people and when they go to NCN what they do there is none of your concern or mine, Any more than when I go to my bedroom or my church is any of their concern. Live and let live. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSES and quit judging what you don't understand. "

Slow down, wrote on May 25, 2007 10:43 AM:

" What's the big deal? You'd be suprised at how much of this activity goes on, and maybe in your own neighborhood. It's not a big deal, they are SWINGERS not axe murderers. Most of them are business people with families. What else are they going to do with the waste land they call Jackson County? "

Chandra wrote on May 25, 2007 9:30 AM:

" I have two thoughts. Number One: I will make certain our family does not travel that highway at all. I'm sorry for the impact on a few area businesses that we frequent, but I have children to worry about. Frankly, I don't want any eyeful of filth, either. Number Two: I am very concerned about people of this low caliber shopping in our city. Again, I have children and I do not want them ogled by depraved people. If I know of an event, I will curtail my shopping and walks about the town with my children until the event is over. "

Mikey wrote on May 24, 2007 2:49 PM:

" What happens between two consenting adults in private is their business. Yet Mr. Thomann and half the people who posted here shout it from the rafters. If you looked up "Camp NCN" two years ago on the Internet you would have found all kinds of "intresting" photos of what went on t "Camp NCN". Apparently he has taken down most if not all of the photos to "clean" up his image. Some people say you would be surprised what happens at your neighbors house. Yes I probably would be but it's in their house and I don't know about it is the whole point. "

Mikey wrote on May 24, 2007 2:34 PM:

" Is that what it's all about money? "Oh it brings money into the area." So does strip clubs, hog farms, prisons, nuclear plants and landfills but people still complain about those things. If there is no oridinane against it I'm for it. As well as everything mentioned above. I also feel that if the citizens of Black River Falls/Jackson County do not want it here, they need to enact an ordinance to keep such things under control. Maybe the county/city needs to update some of their ordinances. "

Entrepreneur wrote on May 23, 2007 9:09 PM:

" With all those bare butts running around during summer in Wisconsin, I figure I'll open up a mosquito repellant stand across the road and retire early. "

TT wrote on May 23, 2007 8:48 AM:

" Yet anther harbinger of our society's impending doom. This same sort of "openness" occured in both Greece and Rome just before they imploded. "

Oh good lord wrote on May 22, 2007 2:44 PM:

" A nationwide press release? What the hell, he couldn't keep it to swinger trade magazines and adult publications, he had to hurt all the other events that happen in the town?! "

Local wrote on May 22, 2007 12:51 PM:

" Well Mr John Bahnub this story shows how well he can keeps it behind closed doors also have seen his flyers is a store and a bank in town, these are places that children are present. Doing this just puts his activities in everyones face. Guess we'll see if the music is really gone this season or is this just another thorn in the communities side. "

Scarlet wrote on May 21, 2007 5:48 PM:

" Make love - not war! "

Vince Noir wrote on May 21, 2007 4:09 PM:

" no wonder everyone calls BRF "BARF" for short "

TheTonz from Montello wrote on May 21, 2007 4:08 PM:

" NCN is a GREAT time! I have attended numerous events including two Black River Rumbles and a swing event. I've had positive experiences everytime so far. Nothing has ever gotten out of hand. It's just adults having a safe and fun time. While I'm in Black River Falls, I patronize numerous establishments. NCN is good for the local economy. So those of you who have bad things to say about NCN, maybe you should look at the whole picture. Maybe you should look at what NCN does for the local economy. Maybe you should put down your cup of tea; upgrade to a mixed drink, relax, and experience NCN for yourself. If you do, you'll have fun. If you don't, THEN YOU'RE TOO OLD!! "

Ray wrote on May 21, 2007 12:55 PM:

" Finally Marv is going to play by the rules. I do not think there are many in local government that have a problem with his proposal. It has gone on for years and were the best weekends for neighbors of the campground. As long as he does not infringe on the rights of others by blasting noise at them at all times of the day and night, go right ahead Marv. There were drug overdoses and injuries, even a death, when there were concerts there. Nothing like that with his sex weekends. Isn't that better for everybody? I think Marv announced this as a way to "get back" at people against his noise. Surprise, Surprise Marv, most people like this idea rather than the drug concerts. "

DandT wrote on May 21, 2007 9:08 AM:

" congratulations Jackson county! You should be thanking him and have a parade in his name for what his endevor is going to do for your economy. Swingers are very thoughtful people, and the large majority are discreet, respectful, and kind. Im hoping I can go someday just to be able to have the freedom to walk around naked! IF YOU HAVENT TRIED IT, DO! "

Open Mind wrote on May 20, 2007 10:54 PM:

" People complain about noise, so the guy finds a different use for the property. People don't like the new idea either. What do you want the guy to do??? If he finds a legal use for the land, follows local ordinances, pays his taxes, and brings tourist dollars into the economy, is it really so bad??? Perhaps there could even be a compromise about the music, so those events could happen also. I read about the ATV park proposal also, and think that's a good idea too. These things will bring people into the community to spend money. That will help develop more business in town and bring tax benefits also. It's a different use than most people would think of. Give the man credit for working to try to find a way to keep his business going and ultimately bring some more tourist dollars to the county. I hope it's wildly successful! "

Former resident wrote on May 20, 2007 6:07 PM:

" You have a better chance of getting an STD from a one night stand from a bar. Which we all know happens a lot in good old BRF. These people are consenting adults who are smart enough to use protection. This will give the BRF economy a boost. "

Renner wrote on May 20, 2007 5:45 PM:

" We've spent a weekend at NCN, we ate at a local restaurant, we shopped at the groc. store just down the road, we were in the gas station (spending well over $150 total outside the campground in only 1.5 days). Inside the campground we were treated with the utmost respect, enjoyed the VERY clean facility and grounds, and managed to make some very good new friends. Unlike a tavern situtation where you are sometimes pressured to drink, we were not pressured into doing anything we didn't want to. Thank you for making us feel welcome in your community and we are looking forward to coming back to visit very soon. "

Joyful wrote on May 20, 2007 9:07 AM:

" It's good to see that most of the commentary has been supportive of the campground. Permits and noise aside (everyone should abide by the law and not disturb neighbors with noise), I say live and let live. I'm puzzled and annoyed by people who feel threatened by other people enjoying themselves in private. "

Yes to Marv wrote on May 20, 2007 8:59 AM:

" Marv, you should be appaulauded for what you're doing for the area. Go NCN! The people here lead such boring lives. Now there's a place that we can go to to have some fun. "

Go to Utah wrote on May 20, 2007 3:50 AM:

" Slice it, dice it, put it anyway you want....if you want/are a swinger, your choice. But to condone it in this day and age with AIDS and STD's? All allegedly for the sake of money? Spare me the 'we have a place to go'. Swingers have for years, it's called the privacy of their own home. I'll stick to monogomy and hopefully teach my children the same. "

No harm done :) wrote on May 19, 2007 4:49 PM:

" We have attended many events at the club. It is not all about sex sex sex :) You meet some great likeminded people. I for one just enjoy running around naked, gets rid of my tan lines :) See you in a month or so and congrats on your pending marriage "

Jason & Tina wrote on May 19, 2007 1:52 PM:

" So when we attend Camp NCN, will the town want my money or not? We need to know how much to bring. If not, we could just stand on a park bench with a giant cross, yell at passers by & tell them they're going to hell & beg for donations. "

i am a swinger wrote on May 19, 2007 12:04 PM:

" we are all over in small town big town but we keep to are self that is why we need places to go to me others like are self so we can be happy just like others who are not swinger. i think there should be more club around like ncn and i am a swinger and a mom of 2 kids i keep my two lives apart frist a am a mom 2nd i am a swinger if we didn't have these club it would be to hard to have both so i would then just have to be mom and be very unhappy mom as it gives happness to have to know i am not the only one who feel this way and that every one who has kids can have the sex life they want and it dont hurt the kids as we dont have it in are home we have other places to go with these clubs out there. the clubs are good for evey one as there are mostly hard to find and closely watch so thing dont go wrong. "

Kat&Brent wrote on May 19, 2007 11:34 AM:

" We've been to Marv's campground and had fun while there. He's a great guy. No one is expected to do anything but relax and enjoy their stay at ANY swinger campground or event; that's what the "average" person doesn't understand. Most get togethers are no different than a bunch of people meeting at a bar to socialize. I've seen more lewd and nasty behavior at the Indy 500 than I have at swinger events. Has anyone actually seen what goes on at some college frat & sorority parties? We're tame compared to those! Get a grip people, we're adults and are comfortable with ourselves and our lifestyle. I'd rather be happy and enjoy life than sit around complaining about others. "

Minnesota Swingers wrote on May 19, 2007 11:33 AM:

" How can we find more out about NCN dates and times? Specifically my partner and I are very interested in the Bondage fest. Does camp NCN have its own website? It would be nice if there were forums so we could all start getting to know one another prior to the events. We look forward to meeting you all! "

Gift Givers wrote on May 19, 2007 10:52 AM:

" My wife and I are so excited about another fun playground opening up. Finally one close by so we do not have to travel so far. We are planning on spending most of the summer (especially the big events) at NCN. See you soon Marv. "

S&D form Milwaukee wrote on May 19, 2007 9:20 AM:

" We have known Marv for many years, have attended almost all of the swing events at NCN since 2003. the people that attend these events are some the finset peoploe you will ever meet!!! we have never witnessed any lude or derogatory activities by anyone there. It is a great place to get away for a weekend of fun with absolutely no pressure to do anything you don't want to!! These events are good for the economy of BRF as the people that attend do invest in your areas economy. We plan on attending again this year!! Keep up the fine work Marv!! Steve and D. "

mystique wrote on May 19, 2007 8:29 AM:

" I am pretty sure that the consenting adults that go to the campground, with the disposable income to spend in this community, will also remember to bring or buy condoms. "

lax wrote on May 19, 2007 8:04 AM:

" what is going on at the camp ground is people having fun most people that are in the lifestyles that will go too it dont do drugs and dont drink and play and alot of them live right next door too all of you there are many many up standing people who go too these things many are on boards in your chuch they also would not think twice about helping you or anyone else if they needed help. the war is killing people the war is hurting our country yet it goes on the cnc is not hurting anyone the war is making our gas prices go though the roof yet it goes on cnc will bring people too our shops and they will spend money making more jobs for this area. think about it really and the woman who wants too lock her doors because of this your funny the teen that lives down the block is more of a theat then then the people that will go too the camp.swingers and other lifestyles that will go are normal people who happen too like something other then what you do dosent make them bad people just different then you are is all. they are some of the most wounder people i have ever meet they are open minded and dont look down on you. it is sad that we live in a world of closed minded open mouthed people for they speck before even knowing who they are talking about and how they are. and i live and work with in 50 miles of the camp and cant wait too go there :) be well "

Happy to have you! wrote on May 19, 2007 8:03 AM:

" As a restaurant owner in Jackson county I am happy to serve swingers. I've known about NCN for the last couple of years and look forward to their events. And most importantly they spend money in our town. "

Markes wrote on May 18, 2007 11:51 PM:

" The fact that most people will find surprising is that locals will have absolutely NO idea which tourist they see in the shops are those visiting NCN. The vast majority of swingers are average, middle class, 'normal' people. I GUARANTEE there are swingers that LIVE in the county who are quietly applauding - lol! "

BRF Family wrote on May 18, 2007 11:35 PM:

" Make sure you lock your doors and load the shotgun as these events will bring the lowest depraved humans into our county. I am surprised on how many individuals agree with allowing this sort of event to happen in their own backyards. God destroyed Sodom and gomorrah...I guess we can all pray for a miracle. "

free spirit wrote on May 18, 2007 10:34 PM:

" we have been to camp ncn and have had a great time,it is great to be able to go to a place where u can be free to flirt, which most people do at local bars.. let the campground be free "

BRF Resident. wrote on May 18, 2007 8:20 PM:

" As I read the artical about the Camp NCC and allmost heard the gasps that went with it I had to shake my head. "Oh my god what was that honey?.... ITS A NUDIST running down the street after our children"... Right... ok. I have been a resident of this county for a long period of time and never once saw an arrest for that in this publication or the Banner Journal. Never once have I seen a "swinger" make mad wild love on a table in the local eating establishments, however I am sure a lot of them have eaten at them. I have however seen nasty bar fights where people get hurt and now and again killed.... WOW there ya go... Lets close the bar's??.. I don't think so. I wonder, We allow our children to know about the war in Irag, where people are being killed and injured, yet the mention.... no the whisper of people having sex behind closed doors or in the privacy of that campground will somehow warp our children or even adults and make them go insane or something. Network TV shows a LOT more than those people do... there ya go again... Wow, let's close down the networks for showing *gasp* sex., Yeah... Right, again, I don't think so. Now... Let's close down the Catholic Church... HEY... Why not, There are a lot of priests that have ruined the lives of children and in some cases suicide was the case. I can hear the cries allready... "That man is going to hell for suggesting such a thing". The point I am trying to make is that the Camp NCN has never that I know of has attempted in anyway to infringe in MY rights.... Who am I to infringe on there rights. Another point is that if I choose NOT to go those events I don't have to and if I were to choose to... Leave me alone, I am not hurting you. This America in the year 2007... Not the Dark Ages. "

Not a swinger wrote on May 18, 2007 7:51 PM:

" The atmosphere of something like Camp NCN is not just for swingers! We are not swingers, never have been, and never will be. However, we CAN say they are, on average, a GREAT bunch of people. Most are above average on both education and income. They are accepting of all around them. Since we aren't naturists, we are not comfortable being nude around children, so adult resorts or other camps similar to NCN are an excellent option to just relax and socialize. We have never been pressured at ALL! For those local residents with a problem, perhaps the better solution would be for THEM to move to a place where they can more completely enjoy themselves worrying about what others are doing and convincing themselves they are superior. "

To Get Real wrote on May 18, 2007 6:19 PM:

" Nicely said. "

CR Style wrote on May 18, 2007 5:39 PM:

" WE have a club in Iowa that meets monthly with between 100 and 300 attending our parties. The people in the swinging live style are some of the most caring friendly kind of people you will ever meet ( I’m not talking sexually), they have a respect of others and I’m sure there will be no problems for Jackson Co. On the financial side the county should see a large increase in revenue. I know just our club brings in around 100,000 a year for the hotels, restaurants and bar and Camp NCN should be much larger then ours is. "

New home wrote on May 18, 2007 5:30 PM:

" Gee the couple that got caught in ShopKo won't have far to go now. La Crosse lost some more tourism revenue. "

CR Style wrote on May 18, 2007 5:08 PM:

" WE have a club in Iowa that meets monthly with between 100 and 300 attending our parties. The people in the swinging live style are some of the most caring friendly kind of people you will ever meet ( I’m not talking sexually), they have a respect of others and I’m sure there will be no problems for Jackson Co. On the financial side the county should see a large increase in revenue. I know just our club brings in around 100,000 a year for the hotels, restaurants and bar and Camp NCN should be much larger then ours is. "

BRF Resident wrote on May 18, 2007 3:14 PM:

" Kudos for NCN to have the courage to have a place for sexual openness. Maybe if my husband and I knew about this place last year I wouldn't have caught him cheating with my neighbor. "

dh wrote on May 18, 2007 3:11 PM:

" i think that people should leave other people alone. and its fun and doesnt hurt anyone. "

Chicago wrote on May 18, 2007 2:58 PM:

" I was just forwarded this story by a friend and after reading it I booked a weekend at NCN with my wife. Bravo to Marv who not only is providing a great place for nudists but a greater service to the business's of Black River Falls. I can't wait to spend money there. "

joe sefus wrote on May 18, 2007 1:51 PM:

" We have been to NCN, and found it to be well maintained,and at no time were we pressured into doing something that we didn't want to. I can see where the loud music is more disruptive, as swingers tend to be a little more discreet. Overall, I have no problem with Marv trying to make a living, and wish him the best of luck. "

E wrote on May 18, 2007 1:27 PM:

" There should be no problem with this campground! Sex is a part of life and majority of us wouldn't be here if it weren't. I agree with the comment above, you can't complain about or outlaw consenting adults having a place to meet people and have sex if they choose to; and then do nothing about bars, festivals and fairs. I have been to NCN and there is less drinking there than any festival I have ever been to. Marv is a great guy trying to make a living and give people a place to have a good time. Kudos to you Marv, and keep up the good work! "

Deb n Roger wrote on May 18, 2007 1:05 PM:

" We feel this campgorund is a great idea and a place for Nudists and Swinger's.. If it helps boost the local economy and stays private.. More Power To Them !!! "

hurt eardrums wrote on May 18, 2007 12:50 PM:

" We have a place some miles away from the campground and would still hear the music throughout the night with the windows closed. It was the same music played over and over. The swinging event will be preferable to 48 hours of annoying drumbeats. you meve to places like BRF to get away from that kind of thing! "

Li ve and let live wrote on May 18, 2007 12:44 PM:

" I think it's great... gov's and busy bodies just need to live and let live. Just get OVER it! And btw, it's not a place for pedophile priests... come to think of it maybe they should shut down all the churches instead of pestering the public! "

STDs wrote on May 18, 2007 12:32 PM:

" Swinging is a great way to get herpes (and other nasty things). The gift that keeps on giving. "

Fayth wrote on May 18, 2007 11:53 AM:

" I am traveling all the way from Florida to visit Camp NCN. so yes, more revenue and Floridians, what more can you ask for;) "

D G wrote on May 18, 2007 9:49 AM:

" While I disapprove of Marv announcing this in the local paper, I feel that his campground is good for local business. It brings tourists in to the Jackson County area, which keeps the businesses in Black River Falls and the surrounding areas going. The County Board and the local law enforcement are against this for they feel it brings drug dealers and users into this area as well. They are wrong about that for any event will do that including the Jackson County Fair. As for the noise problem, they should go up to Cadott during Rock Fest and just sit in town listening to the music and compare that to NCN. Concerts would bring good business in to this area and I feel that Jackson County Board and other officials should just lay off Club NCN and let him go about his business. I feel that "free love" is okay. It is certainly better than war and other violence. It is between consenting adults and it is their choice. He isn't hurting anyone and it is out of the public eye. He's minding his own business and I feel that the ones who disapprove of all this should mind theirs. "

Lawrence Sajdik wrote on May 18, 2007 9:43 AM:

" I live in the city of Nekoosa WI. I travel to Camp NCN North every summer for at least 5 of the many events... This camp ground provides My Wife and I a way to "get away" and enjoy the lifestyle that we have choosen... Marv is a great guy that only wants his guest to enjoy themselves and thier surroundings... So this camp is a wonderful place to visit and play... Thank you for hearing my comments... "

I think NCN is fine wrote on May 18, 2007 9:32 AM:

" The campground is a good source of income for other business in town, and what people do there is nobody's business but there own. Jeff "

Get real wrote on May 18, 2007 8:59 AM:

" Okay, so let's outlaw casinos, because they take everyone's hard earned money. Let's get rid of all taverns, because that promotes drunk driving. Let's get rid of all intimate adult stores, because we definately don't want to spread STD's. Come on people, get real. Every adult is responsible for his/her actions. You can't say no to a swinger's campground but say yes to going out on Friday night and getting drunk! Let the swingers be. If that's what they want to do, let them. Be happy that your neighbors aren't hosting a swingers party the same night your kids are having a camp out in your backyard! You'd be surprised on how many couples swing secretly. Give them a place to do it. "

Tom wrote on May 18, 2007 8:57 AM:

" I have been to places like this before and the people you draw for this kind of party will come from all over the country, and spend much more money then those for music festivals. They also tend to be a little older and you will find a much less drugs and drunken behaviour. Besides filling the campground it will sell a lot of motel rooms, grocery stores, gas stations and many other places very busy. "

A resident wrote on May 18, 2007 8:07 AM:

" This will be a hugely successful business. Sex sells. As long as you can't see it from Hwy 12/27 I don't think there is much that can be done or said about it. \ People complained because the music was too loud, now people are complaining because this man wants to make a living. Just because it's not how everyone else lives doesn't make it wrong. "

Yeah "sick, sick,sicK" wrote on May 18, 2007 7:53 AM:

" imagine what it will be like to finally tell your sheltered children was sex is! boo to the swingers for making you do your job! "

cool wrote on May 18, 2007 7:52 AM:

" My hubby and I might check this out in the summer. We have been swingers for years but wish there were ways to meet more people like us. One thing to remember is that these events are more meet & greets between potential partners than an all out sex fest. The dirtiest, most "vile" acts happen in your next door neighbor's house ;) "

Sound great wrote on May 18, 2007 7:48 AM:

" This sounds like a place where consenting adults can go and be themselves without others bothering then or looking over there shoulder. People going there may not be campers and therefore will stay at motels and hotels in the area and spend money at other establishments. It should help boost our economy. "

Phoenix wrote on May 18, 2007 7:38 AM:

" I have attended swinger events at the campground. There is no reason why concenting adults cannnot enjoy camping and other activities in a private area. Marv runs a very private and safe campground. If you don't want to attend events there then it is a free country. There are enough public campgrounds for the family to enjoy. Lighten up Central Wisconsin (I happen to live within 50 miles of the campground). The "perverts" are not going to harm your children or your way of life. "


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