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Published - Tuesday, February 19, 2008

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Ho-Chunk charter school discussed

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Proponents of a Ho-Chunk Nation charter school were asked to create a proposal for the school during a meeting of the Black River Falls School Board's Curriculum and Instruction Committee Feb. 7.

"We are at a point right now where we would like to see what the proposal is," Black River Falls director of curriculum and instruction Sherri Torkelson said at the onset of the meeting.

At the conclusion of the meeting, more than two hours later, committee members were told a proposal could come as early as March.

"What do you need (in a proposal)," Sid Lewis, a member of the Ho-Chunk Nation and Greenwood resident, asked Torkelson.

"It needs to be laid out enough that the board can start to react to it," Torkelson replied.

Plans

Torkelson, Lewis, and members of the committee were joined at the meeting by Forrest Funmaker, the Ho-Chunk Nation's Executive Director of Education; and representatives of the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction (DPI).

Early in the meeting, Funmaker explained a charter school that would service kindergarten through fourth grade students has been considered, as has a Montessori model.

Funmaker said a middle school charter school has also been discussed.

"It's where we see a lot of our children disengage from the public school experience," he said.

Funmaker explained one of the goals of the charter school would be to immerse its students in the Ho-Chunk nation language and culture.

"We are in the last stage of the preservation of our society," Funmaker said. "We need speakers."

Torkelson in turn asked what the overall plan for the Ho-Chunk nation was.

"The first plan is to get the kindergarten through fourth grade program off the ground," Funmaker said.

"What do you have on paper that you can share with us?" committee member Lois Corey asked.

Funmaker replied he did not have a contract completed.

"I didn't think that was what this meeting was about," he said.

Bob Soldner, School Management Services Director, advised parties interested in forming a charter school typically apply for a planning grant after "a couple of years" of planning.

"You need to do a lot of good, hard work before you even come in for a planning grant," Soldner said.

Details

Funmaker noted the Ho-Chunk nation hopes to implement a charter school that will act as a non-instrumentality, rather than an instrumentality.

Black River Falls High School Assistant Principal Tom Chambers asked the representatives of the DPI what the differences between a non-instrumentality and an instrumentality.

"The largest difference is the fact a non-instrumentality has no employees that are employees of the school district," Soldner replied. "That truly is the difference."

While the intent of the charter school would be to focus on Native American students, it would be open to all students, Funmaker said.

"All we are here for is to create an avenue for an opportunity to help students," Lewis said.

Funding

Lewis told the Black River Falls School Board during a meeting in December that grants are available from the Wisconsin Department Public of Instruction that could aid in the costs of the charter school.

Up to $10,000 can be awarded in the form of a planning grant and up to $150,000 in the form of an implementation grant, Lewis explained.

While grants aid in the cost, some costs could also be incurred by the school district.

Lewis was disappointed cost was discussed during the Feb. 7 meeting.

Lewis said the discussion should be focused on "what is best for kids," not funds.

"How can we possibly ignore it?" Corey replied.

"If we are going to let financing kill the discussion, we might as well all get up and leave," said Barry Goldman, DPI representative said.

Ultimately, no one left the meeting.

Lewis shared his thoughts regarding the question at hand.

"We should be asking not how much money is the district going to lose, but how much are the district's children going to gain?" he said.

"I agree," Chambers said. "That is why we are all here."
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Hap Hogu wrote on Feb 28, 2008 4:17 PM:

" Hap Honi, I support the efforts of your HCN department. Don't forget there are Nebraska HoChunk people with teaching certificates and degrees in curriculum and instruction willing to help out. Aloha. "

How would you know!! wrote on Feb 27, 2008 4:39 PM:

" How dare you say Cop-out! I grew up in this town and racism is very strong! I am married to white person, my kids are a 1/4 Ho-Chunk, so I am the last person you want to say cop-out too! I see people in the store or on the street passing by whom my children have played sports with all their life, do you think they give me time or day, heck no! They walk by me like they don't see me, but thats ok, I never say Hi to anyone unless they say Hi first, so don't flatter yourself and act stuck up!! Most could care less, especially me!! Most of the Prissy women in BRF think you are unfortunate unless you are married to someone who has money. "

Unjustified whining wrote on Feb 27, 2008 8:30 AM:

" Although there is a benefit of starting a charter school, namely preserving the Ho-Chunk culture and language. People shouldn't expect the board to just approve the charter school without a plan. The problem isn't that BRF school district won't pay, it's that the Ho-Chunk Nation's representatives have yet to produce a plan.

This is the second time they went before the board. This meeting also happened in December where the guidelines and questions were laid out. The board president told them exactly what questions they needed answered to move forward. Now the HCN shows up and to paraphrase "Wait, wait, wait... we need a plan? What? We need to tell you how much money we need first? We need to say where its going? What we need to be talking about is the children."

They are: ALL of the children not just Ho-Chunk. Don't you think its reasonable to ask how it's going to work before making a HUGE alteration to the Black River Falls district. BRF isn't saying no, rather wait and see. How about we wait for the HCN to actually make a proposal before claiming racism. That's such a cop-out. How about we wait before asking to fire school teachers. "

Greedy is...... wrote on Feb 25, 2008 10:47 PM:

" I am all for a new way of learning for the Ho-Chunk children, the Ho-Chunk Nation is not trying to take anything away from the School District of BRF, they are trying to save what is left of their culture. If the School District is so worried about losing MONEY because of this, then why is the School District not trying to help the Nation in teaching the Native students more about their own history in the schools? They have spanish for a language, why not the Ho-Chunk language? They teach history of Wisconsin and it's past settlers, why not teach the past history of the Ho-Chunk Nation as well? It seems to me that the School District of BRF is not interested in trying to help these issue or work with the Ho-Chunk Nation, the District is only interested in the MONEY, sure if the Nation were to say here is some MONEY help our students learn, then and only then would the School District only be interested in trying to help the Nation. Shame on greedy people like Chambers for only thinking of the MONEY and how this will hurt the School District, does he get PAID to sit in the position he has to say all of this? I bet he does, and most likely over paid. Maybe the whole adminstration and support staff should take a cut in pay to help cover the costs that Chambers says the District is already in need of since MONEY seem to be the issue here. Just who is he or anyone else for that matter to say the Ho-Chunk Nation and it's people are not that important enough to help save their culture. Native or non-native, everyone should have the chance to learn about their own culture and past history. SHAME SHAME on all of you who are only thinking about the MONEY and not the children. "

Follow the money! wrote on Feb 22, 2008 11:38 AM:

" When you think about schools remember,"It's all about the money."
If the Ho-Chunk kids leave the schools Black River looses money.
The state funding will drop per student and then we will have extra teachers standing around.
We can't get rid of any extra teachers!
They are sacred cows!
How many more like Tom Chambers do we need? He is full of double speak and lacks common sense. The schools are already top heavy with administration and support staff. "

Chambers...Blah Blah Blah wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:26 PM:

" Chamber's states he is here for the better of the children, B...S...! Which children, for surely not the native children! This man would be happy if all the children of color were removed from the Black River Falls School System. Than the school would operate and flow smoothly, right Chambers? Afterall , the Native kids are the real problem in the school system today, right Chambers??? I know Native and lower class white students who have left the BRF school system and chose to participate in the Phoenix Program because of this man so claimed better of the children philosophy! Give me a break, slap some gills on this guy and throw him back in the pond!!! "


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