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Published - Thursday, September 25, 2008

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Accident-prone intersection yields safety concerns

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Nearly 16 accidents have occurred in the last five years at the intersection of Eighth and Main streets in Black River Falls, and it is prompting the public safety commission to look into some safer options for motorists.

Richard Tumaniec, project manager with the Wisconsin Department of Transportation, was present at the safety committee’s Sept. 17 meeting to help answer questions for the public and the committee. Tumaniec said that out of the 16 crashes, nearly half resulted in injuries.

The problem, according to Black River Falls Police Chief Don Gilberg, is when a vehicle is attempting to make a left turn onto Eighth Street from either direction off Main Street, other vehicles are allowed to pass on the right. This creates a problem if a vehicle is also attempting to turn left from the opposite direction because it often cannot see the vehicle that is passing on the right.

Gilberg said he thinks it is one of the most dangerous intersections in Black River Falls.

“People turn left in front of the cars and we have had several serious accidents,” Gilberg said. “From a police department standpoint, this is a significant issue.”

Tumaniec said previous estimates indicate nearly 9,000 cars travel through the intersection on Main Street in a day and another 2,700 travel on Eighth Street. He recommended to the commission that the city conduct a 12-hour traffic count to see what the best course of action would be to increase the safety of the intersection and reduce accidents.

Depending on what the traffic count revealed, a traffic signal could be needed at the intersection.

Tumaniec said the commission has other options, too. One option is to realign the stretch of road to put in a shared center turn lane and reduce through-traffic to one lane each way.

Commission member Randy Eddy said the lane reduction could cause slightly more congestion, “but a three-lane section could slow people down.”

However, Fire Chief Steve Schreiber said a shared turn lane concerned him, considering the size of emergency vehicles that use the route and how they could still block the view of motorists attempting to turn.

“I’m not sure a turn lane is going to be the answer when it comes to emergency vehicles,” he said.

The ultimate decision would be at the city council’s discretion. In the mean time, Tumaniec recommended the city do a 12-hour traffic count to determine what exactly is needed at the intersection.
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Resident of area wrote on Sep 29, 2008 7:41 AM:

" I think a 4-way stop would be appropriate. I live in the area and have almost been hit many times WALKING across that intersection, because everyone thinks it is cool to go 45 mph and ignore the signs about yielding to pedestrians. The city could make a lot of money just sitting there writing tickets once a week. "

bigger problem wrote on Sep 29, 2008 5:13 AM:

" i travel 8th and main all the time and i don't think it is nearly as much of a problem as downtown main and water st. have you ever tried turning left at the bottom of the bridge at 5:00pm. it is impossible to go up water st. what we need is a left turn signal down there. people are waiting forever just to turn there. watch that mess sometime at 5pm and you won't think 8th and main is a problem at all. "

drivers ed wrote on Sep 28, 2008 1:38 AM:

" The real problem is half the people don't pay attention while they are behind the wheel and the other half of the people are speeding. There should be more enforcement there to stop people from driving 40mph in town. Traffic lights are not the answer. People will just speed through the yellows and cause even more crashes. A four-way stop won't work either because it seems that no one knows how those work anymore. People are clueless about center turn lanes too, so it is doubtful that would make that intersection any safer. "

To Laughing wrote on Sep 26, 2008 4:59 PM:

" There is always a misanthrope in every bunch. When we are trying to come up with a solution there are people like you who are small in your thought and offer no resolution. Rather only negative comments. Be constructive and helpful. The negativity in this town is getting to be overwhelming.

O and to perfect driver. You comment about BRF not being proactive but rather reactive. You negated yourself by saying that unless something happens to you;you don't think there needs to be anything done. However you are right... Hwy A and Hwy 12/27 needs more attention. "

Laughing wrote on Sep 26, 2008 1:31 PM:

" I looked at your poll this week and am laughing at all the people who think there should be a traffic cop at the intersection. The city police can't even assist the school buses get out of the high school for five minutes let alone handle a whole intersection. We should send the city cops packing. "

Perfect Driver wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:48 PM:

" Even though I will not have a say in the matter, I am not convinced yet that there needs to be any changes to the intersection of 8th & Main. Maybe if I were to be involved in an accident there, I would feel different. I travel that stretch of highway everyday on my way to and from work, and from my perspective, most incidents or near misses there have been the result of people not paying attention, not using their signals, or not using other defensive driving skills. Most people are in too much of a hurry, some people have really poor driving skills, and a few people seem to be very confused about how to deal with a 4-lane highway. If everyone was as good of a driver as me, then there wouldn't be a problem. And before everyone gets all bent out of shape, please take that comment with the humor and sarcasm that was intended.

If something is done there though, I would prefer to see that stretch of highway converted back to a 2-lane highway, with left turn lanes at all of the intersections, rather then bottling things up with lights or stop signs. I have never really understood the need for that stretch of highway to be 4 lanes anyway.

I feel there are potentially more dangerous intersections needing attention first (i.e. 10th & Main; Cty. A & N. Water; Hwy 54 & McDonald Rd.). I guess the accident statistics and/or traffic volume just do not raise them to the same level of concern though. Funny how safety improvements always seem to be reactive rather than proactive. "

Renee Rhoades-Lembcke wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:40 AM:

" I tend to use Harrison Street from Water Street to its end near the Middle School for my trips through town, but that is not entirely satisfactory either. Harrison and 8th there are shrubs that impede vision when you cross there. Granted, the home owner keeps them well trimmed but it is still a little chancy. Also, there is a blind corner at 4th and Harrison as you are coming up to it from Water Street where you cannot see what is at the top of the hill. (Solution for that is to always assume there is something there.)

A four-way stop would be good on Main and 8th as it is a way to organize the traffic flow without congesting it like a light or narrowing it to 3 lanes would. And PLEASE no roundabouts in BRF anywhere. Hate 'em! "


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